{"id":10129,"date":"2025-06-28T18:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-06-28T18:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/?p=10129"},"modified":"2025-07-01T19:32:02","modified_gmt":"2025-07-01T19:32:02","slug":"backdoor-roth-ira-fff219","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/?p=10129","title":{"rendered":"Backdoor ROTH IRA-The Good and Bad-Finger Financial Five #219"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"10129\" class=\"elementor elementor-10129\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-135c0dd elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"135c0dd\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-8788e01\" data-id=\"8788e01\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-45ab097 elementor-blockquote--skin-border elementor-blockquote--button-view-icon-text elementor-blockquote--button-skin-classic elementor-widget elementor-widget-blockquote\" data-id=\"45ab097\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"blockquote.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"elementor-blockquote\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-blockquote__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\u201cBackdoor friends are best\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-q-footer\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<cite class=\"elementor-blockquote__author\">a cross stitched saying that was framed up at one of my childhood friends\u2019 home<\/cite>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=%E2%80%9CBackdoor+friends+are+best%E2%80%9D%0A+%E2%80%94+a+cross+stitched+saying+that+was+framed+up+at+one+of+my+childhood+friends%E2%80%99+home&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Friverbend.objectivebrand.com%2F%3Fp%3D10129\" class=\"elementor-blockquote__tweet-button\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fab-twitter\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M459.37 151.716c.325 4.548.325 9.097.325 13.645 0 138.72-105.583 298.558-298.558 298.558-59.452 0-114.68-17.219-161.137-47.106 8.447.974 16.568 1.299 25.34 1.299 49.055 0 94.213-16.568 130.274-44.832-46.132-.975-84.792-31.188-98.112-72.772 6.498.974 12.995 1.624 19.818 1.624 9.421 0 18.843-1.3 27.614-3.573-48.081-9.747-84.143-51.98-84.143-102.985v-1.299c13.969 7.797 30.214 12.67 47.431 13.319-28.264-18.843-46.781-51.005-46.781-87.391 0-19.492 5.197-37.36 14.294-52.954 51.655 63.675 129.3 105.258 216.365 109.807-1.624-7.797-2.599-15.918-2.599-24.04 0-57.828 46.782-104.934 104.934-104.934 30.213 0 57.502 12.67 76.67 33.137 23.715-4.548 46.456-13.32 66.599-25.34-7.798 24.366-24.366 44.833-46.132 57.827 21.117-2.273 41.584-8.122 60.426-16.243-14.292 20.791-32.161 39.308-52.628 54.253z\"><\/path><\/svg>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-blockquote__tweet-label\">Tweet<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-463ddce elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"463ddce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2><strong>How to contribute to a ROTH IRA even when your income is too high. <\/strong><\/h2><p>There are ways to get money into a ROTH IRA, but I\u2019ve also seen people make mistakes.<\/p><p>What is a Backdoor Roth IRA?<\/p><p>The &#8220;Backdoor Roth IRA&#8221; isn&#8217;t a type of account, but a clever strategy for high-income earners. <strong>The process is relatively simple:<\/strong><\/p><ol><li>Contribute to a Traditional IRA: You start by making a non-deductible (after-tax) contribution to a Traditional IRA. This means you don&#8217;t get a tax deduction for this contribution.<\/li><li>Convert to a Roth IRA: Soon after, you convert that money from your Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA.<\/li><li>Pay (or don&#8217;t pay) the taxes: Since you already paid taxes on the initial contribution, you generally won&#8217;t owe taxes on the converted amount itself.<\/li><li>Any earnings that may have accrued between the contribution and conversion are taxable.<\/li><\/ol><p>\u00a0<\/p><p>This maneuver allows you to bypass the income limits for direct Roth IRA contributions and get your money into a Roth, where it can grow tax-free for the rest of your life.<\/p><p>The mistake I\u2019ve seen people make is not considering the \u2018Pro-Rata Rule\u2019.<\/p><p>The pro-rata rule applies when you have a mix of pre-tax and after-tax money across all of your Traditional, SEP, and SIMPLE IRAs combined. The IRS views all these accounts as one big pool of money.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><h3><strong>Here is an example:<\/strong><\/h3><p>Imagine you have a Traditional IRA with $95,000 in pre-tax funds (from old 401(k) rollovers or deductible contributions) and you want to do a backdoor Roth with a new, after-tax contribution of $7,000.<\/p><p>The total value of your Traditional IRA accounts is now $102,000. Of that, only $7,000 is after-tax money.<\/p><p>Now, you convert that $7,000 to a Roth IRA. The IRS doesn&#8217;t let you just convert the after-tax portion. The pro-rata rule requires you to convert a proportional mix of both pre-tax and after-tax funds.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><h3><strong>Here&#8217;s the math:<\/strong><\/h3><p>$7,000\/$102,000 is approximately 6.86%<\/p><p>This means only about 6.86% of your conversion is tax-free. The other 93.14% is considered pre-tax and is therefore taxable.<\/p><p>So, even though you only converted $7,000, you would owe income tax on approximately $6,520 of it. This can lead to an unexpected tax bill and defeats the purpose of the backdoor Roth IRA.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><h3><strong>How to Avoid the Pro-Rata Rule Trap<\/strong><\/h3><p>The key to a successful backdoor Roth is to have a zero balance in your pre-tax Traditional, SEP, and SIMPLE IRAs. If your Traditional IRA only contains non-deductible contributions (the ones you just made for the conversion), the pro-rata rule doesn&#8217;t apply, and your conversion is tax-free.<\/p><p>However, MANY PEOPLE don&#8217;t properly track how much they have in after tax money and they pay tax on this portion twice! You can file form 8606 to keep track of it.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><h3><strong>A possible fix to open up a Backdoor Roth IRA strategy:<\/strong><\/h3><p>If you have pre-tax money in your IRAs, you can:<\/p><ul><li>Roll over your pre-tax IRA funds into a workplace retirement plan like a 401(k) or 403(b), if your plan allows it. Employer plans are not considered in the pro-rata calculation for IRAs, so this effectively &#8220;cleans out&#8221; your IRA.<\/li><li>Convert the entire IRA balance to a Roth IRA. This will trigger a tax bill on the pre-tax portion, but it gets the money into a Roth account for future tax-free growth. This might be a good option if your pre-tax balance is small.<\/li><\/ul><p>Of course, work with your CPA and a financial advisor that knows what they are doing (wink wink), before you execute any of these strategies.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p>Check out our new video, <em>\u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/XrpK35N1Ivs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">5 Lies Retirees Believe, but Proven False<\/a>\u2019<\/em>.<\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/XrpK35N1Ivs\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-10133 noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10133\" src=\"http:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/T24-4-Lies-Retirees-Believe-but-Proven-False.jpg\" alt=\"5 Lies Retirees Believe, but Proven False\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/T24-4-Lies-Retirees-Believe-but-Proven-False.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/T24-4-Lies-Retirees-Believe-but-Proven-False-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/T24-4-Lies-Retirees-Believe-but-Proven-False-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/T24-4-Lies-Retirees-Believe-but-Proven-False-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/T24-4-Lies-Retirees-Believe-but-Proven-False-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/riverbend.objectivebrand.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/T24-4-Lies-Retirees-Believe-but-Proven-False-610x343.jpg 610w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cBackdoor friends are best\u201d a cross stitched saying that was framed up at one of my childhood friends\u2019 home Tweet How to contribute to a ROTH IRA even when your income is too high. 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